Other features include Monte Carlo-style 3M Soft Touch Cheekrest Pad. I won't cover my bluing procedure because the bluing you use may require a different procedure, but I'll offer some helpful tips. Overall length is 40.4 inches, barrel length is 20.47 inches, front sights are wire pin post, rear sights are graduated 100 to 1000 meters. It worked 10 times faster than rubbing alcohol and did not damage the wood, but the fumes were terrible! Website by Hudson. Add to Cart. Identical construction was used by Tula and Izhevsk factories. With this Monte Carlo gun stock from ATI, you can easily convert your Mosin Nagant into a modern-looking hunting rifle. Kingston, NY 12401, 2023 Numrich Gun Parts Corporation. The Mosin-Nagant is a weapon born and bred for combat use, and even though it may be a bit obsolete today in the 21st Century, beggars can't be choosers. Birch wood. The new sleek Mosin Nagant synthetic stock comes with a non-slip 1" rubber butt pad, a great answer to the harsh kick of the potent 7x54R ammunition. Slide the bands forward. Also the Russian and "Finnish capture" SVT38 and SVT40. Mosin Nagant Sling Swivels Our Price: $13.50 (1) . Only this small change allowed for the saving of a few tons of metal monthly, it also freedalmost 100 workers and 20 machines. One of the main four parts that were changed in M91/30 production compared to late dragoon M91'swere barrel bands (The other three parts were the front sight, rear sight and bayonet). Re-lacquerd postwar by a Soviet repair depot. Maybe next time I'll try some liquid bleach. Sportsters and all Hunting Rifles Forum, For Sale, For Trade, or Want to Buy - Market Place, OT.Your "Other" Hobbies and Collections. Make sure the metal is absolutely clean before applying the bluing. Of course you can send it off to a pro - but that'll probably cost as much as the Mosin. Next, wet a cloth or towel. We sell Mosin Nagant Monte Carlo stock kits designed for the Russian M44 carbine, the Mosin Nagant 91/30 rifle, the M59, M38 7.62x54R rifles. None of those changes were used by the Tula factory in, Prewar pattern cleaning rod retaining nut, Wartime/postwar simplified Izhevsk factory cleaning rod retaining nut, It should be mentioned that since late 1941 Izhevsk stocks had an additional notch above the cleaning rod, it was useful in preventing the clogging of the cleaning rod retaining nut with mud - the mud was pushed by the cleaning rod into the notch. There's two reasons to sand / polish the bolt; form and function. According to the MSDS it contains acetone, methanol and toluene. Timney-designed, unique trigger blocking safety. More Information Reviews Only registered users can write reviews. Original condition (left) and after sanding (right). If you use any of these solvents, I strongly recommend wearing gloves and stripping the stock outside. Although the odds of your old Mosin Nagant being worth a significant amount of money are very low, there is a small chance that your specific rifle is worth at least a little more than the average. Some experiments were made with different components, sometimes it is difficult to verify what components were used for the finish of a particular stock. by steelbuttplate Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:21 pm, Return to Collectible Mosin Nagant Forum, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Military Preservation & Civilian Firearms Forums for Collectors, Post For example, the majority of stocks at the newly created factory #536 NKV in Tula, which started production inFebruary 1942, were issued without a lacquer finish. It's unclear when, but in the 1930's Soviets managed to replace the imported "Cologne earth" with a chemically synthesized equivalent, this significantly improved supply. Mosin-Nagant For Sale at GunAuction.com. In the end of 1943 triple lacquering returned. Original Finnish Mosin Nagant sling swivel escutcheons with screws for the stock. Sold Out. Mosin Nagant Parts and Accessories. The Mosin-Nagant rifle is a bolt operated, magazine fed rifle. In the late 1880s, the Russian Empire was in dire need of a new service rifle after having been equipped with Berdan single shot rifles for such a long time, which was a major contributor to heavy casualties in recent wars with the . As an alternative to sanding and polishing, some people put polishing compound on the cam surfaces and open/close the bolt 1000 times, but using a Dremel with a polishing wheel produces the same results in about 10 seconds. Reviews of different Mosin Models. My stock didn't have much grain, so dying wouldn't be much better than staining. Details about toe splices will be provided below. I just bought 2 mosin nagants. I've got several examples of those and one in 91/59 configuration, as well. One is a 1924 Ishevsk hex and the other a 1942 round receiver which has the hammer and sickle and down below the date a small triangle with arrow. In 1938 new technical conditions #2088 for M91/30 stocks production were adopted, but no change to the finish was introduced. Also original wire sling hangers available. Any dust that lands on the poly before it's dry will become embedded - and that makes it difficult to get a nice, smooth finish. Birch was used as the main wood forproduction, but sometimes depots produced beech stocks, beech wood was allowed to be used starting in1943. I just stained and polyurethaned right over them. The basic scheme of stock production from birch wood was:At first stocks were painted with a stain, then they were soaked with a compound that penetrated into the wood structure (creating a protective barrier). Don't sand too much on any surfaces that contact the bolt or stock, or will affect the operation of the rifle. After 1500 to 2000 grit sandpaper, move to the Dremel and polishing compound. A bore snake seemed to speed up the process. The poly needs to dry in an area that does not have dust or drafts. Add to Compare. I generally apply a very thin coat of wipe-on polyurethane on every surface, inside and out. But now the wood seemed too dark and dingy. Sling Escutcheon 6.00 both sides. Oiled and waxed. Only registered users can write reviews. Other people (including myself) just work around the bolts. On the American market, the 1891 Mosin Nagant has gone from bargain beater to a prized mil surplus possession. Curse as you fight with the bands and gouge the stock with a screwdriver trying to pry them forward. Use a Q-tip with rubbing alcohol under the springs to help free them up. He has two and is thinking about the third.. Should we warn him or let him fall into the same hole we did? M91/30 drawings/instructions were updated with the possibility of toe splice production since 1938. Sanding the bolt cam surfaces smooth will probably not make a significant difference - unless the surfaces are very rough. 1943 Tula stock with stamped sling slot inserts. However, there were few production modifications. Hopefully the dent will smooth out. Postwar replacement stock made by Arsenal #1. The rifle was originally made with a hex receiver. Low Estimate Price: $1500. Another feature that can help to estimate the stock production period is the shape of finger grooves in the middle of the stock. Mosin Nagant early screw in type stock escutcheon for sling slots. I don't have any magic tricks to clean the barrel in 10 seconds. Courtesy of Ryan Elliott, In 1940 Izhevsk replaced the shellac lacquer/varnish with nitrocellulose VK-1 lacquer/varnish. There are many resources online if you need more detailed directions. There have been a lotof discussions about laminated stocks. by srtjeeplover95 Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:13 pm, Post You can apply a sealer to hold in the cosmoline, but it doesn't seem to be necessary. 1924 Izhevsk dragoon stock with a factory made toe splice (dovetail joint). It's probably not worth the hassle. I started with 90% rubbing alcohol and green scrubbing pads. Everyone has a different method, but I recommend washing it off with a solvent, like mineral spirits. Numrich Gun Parts Corporation You can always change your mind and put a gloss finish over a satin finish later. First, apply some water to the dent and let it soak in for a while. It is most commonly chambered in the 7.6254mmR cartridge, which was designed alongside the rifle. Hold the bolt body vertically with the end of the firing pin on a sturdy surface. Send email to admins@russian-mosin-nagant-forum.com, http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinFeatures04.htm. The process causes the wood fibers to swell up, hopefully returning to their original shape and resulting in a smooth surface. They can be original to the stock (a stock was issued with it) or they can be a repair insert because of damage the thearea. I mix the dye with about equal parts distiller water in an old glass jar. by srtjeeplover95 Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:43 pm, Post Because of that, since the 1920's the Soviets made an intensive search for replacements. by qz2026 Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:07 am, Post Hold the trigger back and slide the bolt back and out of the receiver (if you haven't already). More Details : MOSIN NAGANT M38 M44 REAR SIGHT ASSEMBLY. This should result in a very smooth and beautiful finish. On the the top - longer Izhevsk factory toe splice, on the bottom - shorter splice on a postwar Arsenal #1 produced solid wood birch stock. The only real power comes out of a long rifle" - Joseph Stalin. This is a Russian refurbish of a 1938 dated Tula manufactured round. The main Artillery directorate of the Red Army highly recommended that theIzhevsk factory introduce into production sling slot inserts designed in Tula, but the factory administration was strongly against this because of the higher expenses compared to thesling slots used in Izhevsk. Price $39.95. This is an excellent place for new Mosin owners to ask questions. by millman Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:40 am, Post Mosin Nagant 91/30 Firing Pin *Good* $23.00. I repeatedly de-greased and rinsed a few times. Purchase Now . The stock seemed to be in average condition. You guys are funny33 mosins My number I've had is at least twice that, about half I don't have anymore. Shellac can be repaired fairly easily, but I wanted a tougher finish. In the Autumn of 1941 the Izhevsk factory introduced a few simplifications into productionthat were related to stockhardware. Lay it on the dent and use a hot clothes iron to steam the wood. Mosin Nagant buttplates. They contained list of neccessary operations and requirments for produced parts, they markings, finish, interaction. The can says it "Gently dissolves old finishes - preserves woods original color and character." KSA Mini Mosin-Nagant .22lr. However,because ofmuch lower production the Tula factory was able to use BLO soaking. Mosin Nagant 91 Front band Retaining Spring N91024 $4.00 Mosin Nagant 91 Accessory Kit N91052 Contains: 2 ammo pouches 1 soft pouch 1 sling 1 oiler 1 combo tool 2 jags and a few assorted parts $22.95 1 review (s) Mosin Nagant 91 Lower band Retaining Spring N91022 Size 1 3/4 " $4.00 Mosin Nagant Original Double Spout Oiler N91050 $3.95 Sling Escutcheon 35 Front Sight 38 Handguard 39 Handguard Band 40 Front Sight Base 42 Stock 43 Barrel NI Not Illustrated TTSB99 Stripper Clip Pouch, 2 Pocket, Russian, Reddish / Brown Vinyl-Coated Canvas Numrich Gun Parts Corporation 226 Williams Ln. Apply more water until the dent is saturated. Press the barrel band springs and try to slide off the bands. Even though the technical conditions for production were the same for both factories, final products looked a little different, the finish on stocks from different factories can vary from shiny to matte. Restoration goals, expectations, disclaimer. In this case it indicates that the item was produced by a particular repair depot. In stock (Only 4 left!) However, please did not accept this version as completely correct, merely a theory. Mid 1950's and later production. We have no drill scope mounts, muzzle brakes, and Mosin Nagant aftermarket stocks on sale. Which war? Parts, accessories and manuals for the Mosin-Nagant family of rifles. A few repair depots marked their stocks with their emblem (on the right side of the buttstock) - stocks with a "25 in star" marking (Central Artillery armament base in Omsk), and with a crossed box marking (Arsenal #1, Donguzskaya railway station, since 1944 - Balakleya) are quite common. by Junk Yard Dog Sat Dec 07, 2019 11:46 am, Post Wartime pattern stock, made by Arsenal #1. FEATURED LONG GUN Italian M91 CarcanoGET YOURS, Limited Edition "Alien Green" 30 Round AK-47 MagazineGET YOURS. In the rush of things many parts of the process were eliminated, some stocks from that time period will have no rear escutcheon, and just a flat metal plate in the front one, or nothing there either. Rifle Stock & Forend Parts for Mosin Nagant Best Selling ProMag AA9130 Archangel OPHOR Precision Rifle Stock - Black (167) $180.77 New ATI Mosin Nagant 7.62X54R Monte Carlo Stock - Black (23) $82.47 New $75.00 Used ProMag AA9130-DT Archangel Opfor Precision Rifle Stock for Mosin-Nagant (94) $180.79 New Phone: (660) 259-2832. Here's my general finishing process. Mosin Nagant cleaning Kits. Front half liner and rear slot 1942/43. Dying and staining both color the wood, but dye will allow more of the grain to show through. Copper rivets were typical to Izhevsk (brass rivets are unusual to Izhevsk), while Tula used both copper and brass rivets. I use 400 to 2000 grit wet/dry sandpaper and a Dremel with polishing compound. Watco danish oil can create a fairly good finish. Izhevsk factory completely switched to thenew type in 1934, Tula - in 1935. Allow the poly to dry (usually at least 12 hours). GunAuction.com Master List. Original Russian Army WW2/Cold War Mosin Nagant Oil Bottle - Old stock genuine 3.00 3.99 postage FINNISH army PreWW2 1927 Mosin Nagant M1891 handbook 25.00 Click & Collect 5.00 postage Mosin Nagant Steel Oil Bottle Two Chambers marked BU rounded edge each G917 5.29 Was: 5.88 16.61 postage by srtjeeplover95 Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:35 am, Post by fullspectrum1971 Fri Dec 06, 2019 6:11 pm, Post Thanks guys. The stamped type was designed by the Tula factory in the mid 1920's, after this Tula produced only the stamped type. Type with toe splice. I am not a gunsmith. $789.95. Old t-shirts and socks also work really well. You don't have to clean the barrel to restore your Mosin, but it'll probably help to prevent contamination during the bluing process. * In mid 1934 the Izhevsk factory issued a very small number of beech stocks. These stocks had wrist bolts for preventing cracks in this area. They seem to be sold out everywhere and seem to be going up in value every year. Thanks for the tips guys. Factory toe splice is easy to spot - it is longer and ends under the sling slot. Afterwards,they were covered with lacquer and varnish. June 25, 2015. by Denis Prisbey. MBWSTOCKS Mosin Nagant Folding Stock Rustic Brown $170.00. A traditional hunting style stock for the Mosin-Nagant, ATI's Monte Carlo is effective and affordable. To order any of our Mosin Nagant accessories, simply add the desired items to your cart and checkout, or give us a call at 661-322-8100 and we're happy to answer any questions or help you complete your order. Gouges can be filled with wood filler. There's some good instructions on the internet. There are many resources online if you need more detailed directions. If your Mosin has a decent finish on it, I'd recommend leaving it alone. Both dont have the square with diagonal line indicating a refinished stock. You'll probably have to repeat the bluing and rinsing process a few times to get a nice, dark blue finish. Use light pressure until all the existing scratches are gone and the surface has an even finish. Stocks that are painted with a sandal wood composition are light colored with a yellow tint, stocks painted with "beizen" wood stain have a brown tint. I just bought 2 mosin nagants. Welcome to the board, pictures would help, but it sounds like your rifle is made at Izhevsk, and has a wartime expedient stock. The Best Mosin Nagant Modern Stocks in 2022 M1891 Cleaning Rods 15.00 NOT AVAILABLE. Wear gloves to prevent fingerprints in the finish. in box acceptance) replacement stock made by Arsenal #1. Sold On: December 2nd, 2011. Send email to admins@russian-mosin-nagant-forum.com, New Mosin owner question on escutcheons sling slots, Re: New Mosin owner question on escutcheons sling slots. There are also some other minor differences in the stocks between the prewar and wartime (no metal, just a slot in the wood) so if you're trying to put together a "replica" prewar . Copyright 2022 Classic Firearms, LLC. by qz2026 Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:35 am, Post You can also let the stock sit in the hot sun and wipe off the cosmoline as it seeps out every half an hour. All Rifles, Firearms, Mosin Nagant. All Rights Reserved. Factory calibrated ready to shoot or fully adjustable for Sear Engagement (Creep), over travel (Follow through) and Pull Weight. Most there wasn't much wrong with them. are deep, then start with 400 to 800 grit sandpaper. Archangel Mosin Nagant OPFOR Precision Rifle Stock - Desert Tan Polymer includes AA762R 02 (10) Rd Magazine. Start by removing the bolt. History. The surfaces on my Mosin were so full of machine marks and dents that they were impossible to completely sand out. NOS unused pair left and right. Seller: DENVER GUN ROOM. Flaky finish on postwar refurbished rifles is the result of application issues during the refurbishment process, or use of old. Cosplay weapon Mosin's Rifle Russian Army 1891 Woods copy Mosin Nagan 1:1 handmade WW2 Accessories Fake Weapon Replica Performance History by fullspectrum1971 Mon Dec 02, 2019 9:33 pm, Post This production pattern was the only one used by both factories up to the Autumn of1941, when the Izhevsk factory introduced some simplifications to the production. This is the time to repair any dents in the stock. Showing 1-18 of 31 results Mosin-Nagant Trigger Spring / Bolt Stop $ 21.95 Add to cart; Mosin-Nagant Extractor . Details about stocks with a toe splice will be provided below. Or fastest delivery Feb 15 - 17 . It has made its way to the United States in mass numbers through international arms dealers after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991. The Mosin Nagant is a very basic rifle, kind of what you'd expect from a rifle designed in the late 1800s and mass produced Read More Hunting with a Mosin Nagant Mosin Nagant, Guns / By Adam by steelbuttplate Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:33 am, Post This will help determine how much time, effort and money you'll need to put into the project. Some were with a toe splice, some were without. Birch wood. In 1941, after war started, the Izhevsk factory significantly increased rifles and carbine production. Fairly rough surface. Mosin is more than hundred years old! Now what would a late ww2 stock look like? Barrel Parts. The Tula factory still looked for a cheaper alternative, in early 1943 they created their own design of stamped sling slot insertsthat were installed without screws. You can use either heat or a solvent to remove cosmoline. MOHAA Player. Before we get too far out of the gate, fair . Stamped insert in the front and no insert in the rear. by SA1911a1 Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:02 am, Post Applying wipe-on poly is almost foolproof, but there's a couple things that can mess it up. I had a hard time getting my barrel clean. Lexington, MO 64067. Type without a toe splice. 1st is a. The new color came out very close to the original color (before any work was started on the stock). You can make your first post here! from 54716883 Postwar stocks had full metal sling slot inserts (factory #536 NKV in Tula type), stamped barrel band slings and oval cutouts forthe barrel band release (sometimes similar shape cutouts were added to the stocks of other manufacturers during refurbishment). 15-4314xq. Get some of the best Mosin Nagant aftermarket parts to upgrade your Mosin rifle Pu sniper scope with mounts for your surplus Mosin Nagant M91/30. Soviets tested stocks made from laminated wood since the late 1930's, but only a few trial stocks were made and the tests were unsuccessful. But, I choose to call them post war, none-the-less. Don't fret, if you're ok with a reproduction then just build your own Mosin Nagant 91/30 PU Sniper Rifle. The rifle was 48 inches long and featured a flat rear sight, a front globe sight and a split barrel band. A lot of the ones I bought were listed as gunsmith specials, a few SKS as well. It was submitted for trialsand was introduced into mass production in late 1933 in Izhevsk. Because time is a factor, you may want to only blue half the rifle at a time. That seemed to remove most of the cosmoline without harming the wood. Steel, black oxide, very solid. Mosin Nagant Band Spring, Rear Our Price: $12.50 . First, work as fast as possible. Shown with a Leupold 3-9x40mm VX-1 riflescope. Mosin Nagant butt Pads. Two wood types were allowed to be used - birch and walnut. Unlike the 07, 38, 91/38 and 91/59 this carbine is fitted with a side folding bayonet. Until 1945 there was no production of laminated stocks (despite some online sources claiming otherwise). 1943 Tula stock with screwed in sling slot inserts. I think I said the same thing and qualified my statement that, indeed, pressed escutcheons were used towards the end of the war. The majority of them have no markings that allow for the identification of the manufacturer and are more rough compared to factory made stocks. DETAILS >>. Mosin Nagant Disassembly Tool, screwdriver type, SA marked 30.00 . The shape and size of the inserts were changed at least twice in 1930's. The problem is that there is no information (in factory and Soviet repair depotdocumentation) about them. We have lots of parts for Mosin Nagant rifles in stock. Misc Parts. Accessories | View All >> (41122 Products) Hand Gun Parts. Going to take some time off work and go, Mosin Videos, and "How to's" (Sub-Forum). Yet, in its stock configuration, the Russian bang stick isn't the most wieldy field rifle. No screws. It requires an extra sanding step to remove the raised grain, but the result is slightly smoother than if the grain had not been raised and sanded down. Strip all the oil out of the metal. This method may take several days. The main Artillery directorate decided to start stockproduction at repair depots, some of them were well equipped with woodworking machinery. 91/30 Mosin Nagant in 7.62x54R with matching bolt and reciever, sold with accessories and a scout mounted AIM 2-7x32 scope. In theAutumn of 1941 Izhevsk brass caps on the handguard were replaced with steel caps (blued), they were stacked instead of riveted. The wood was oily after stripping off the shellac. Magazine protruded below the stock just ahead of the trigger guard, and had a hinged floor plate, used to unload magazine at once and to clean it. In the late 1920's a new wood stain was introduced, made on the base of a so called "Cologne earth". Browse Categories; Used Guns For Sale; Rifles For Sale; Shotguns For Sale; Handguns For Sale . The temperature should be above 60 degrees F, otherwise the poly will take several days to dry (during which time it will collect a lot of dust). More Details : MOSIN NAGANT TRIGGER-SEAR SPRING. We are your source for aftermarket Mosin Nagant rifle accessories and parts, the original scope and mount combo, and stock kits on sale at low prices. According to "Technical conditions #1525", dried stock blanks (6-8% humidity) were polished, painted (with "beizen" stain), soaked wit BLO or tar, and covered with 8 layers of shellac lacquer and varnish. Multiplylacquering with VK-1 (according to prewar standards) was replaced with double, or even single. Hi guys. All in the span of a few, perplexingly short years. Issue of the application or old laquer. Screwed insling slot inserts were eliminated, the front sling slot got a stamped insert made from 0.024" steel, the rear sling slot remained without an insert. Russian PO 3.5 scope & Mount(Mosin Nagant Style) OUT OF STOCK. Source: The Mosin-Nagant Rifle by Terrence Lapin, ISBN: 1882391217 1941 M1891/30 Mosin Nagant (31 picture virtual tour) Observations: (by "Claven2") Note: Pics of rifle provided courtesy of Milsurps.com moderator Claven2. The hex receivers were replaced by round ones in 1935-36. If so, you'll have to remove it. This is the first Mosin I've restored, so I'm not an expert and I can't compare all the possible restoration techniques. The Mosin Nagant is a Russian bolt action rifle that was first produced in 1891. Other people use break cleaner, oven cleaner, steam, boiling water, heat from the sun or various other things. Slide the magazine / trigger guard assembly down and out of the stock. According to tnekkc, polishing the contact areas in the bolt and trigger will not significantly reduce the required trigger pull force. ProMag Mosin Nagant Archangel Tactical Stock Up to $9.50 Off w/ Free S&H 2 models 4.5 rating with 15 reviews review & rate 21 Questions & 23 Answers Pro Mag Archangel Mosin Nagant Stock Pro Mag Archangel Mosin Nagant Stock, O.D. Please See other items . by steelbuttplate Sat Dec 07, 2019 2:57 am, Post After about 15 minutes I wiped off the excess. I won't go into the details of how to do all of that because it could turn into it's own guide. The Mosin-Nagant is simply a bolt action rifle fed by an internal magazine. Mosin Nagant 1891/30 Folding stock. Maximizing the Mosin-Nagant Battle Rifle. Because the dye is water based, it will raise the grain. You should follow the directions for whatever finish you use. I sprayed it down with some commercial de-greaser, let it soak for a minute then rinsed with rubbing alcohol. If temperatures get above 90 or the humidity falls under about 30% then the poly can dry so fast that it becomes difficult to apply. The locations where they were stamped are mentioned in repair documentation for each weapon type. Next, use 400 - 600 grit wet/dry sandpaper and oil. Before I saw the rifle, I had planned to restore it to the same condition as a typical new rifle. Used. Mosin Nagant slings. Trigger allows you to become more accurate with your rifle. The stock fits most 91/30 rifles, as well as M-38 and M-44 carbines, and Mosin Nagant variants 7.62x54R. M44 Cleaning Rods 15.00. from The Dragoon version was modified in 1930 to create the new M91/30 model of the Mosin Nagant. In 1936 a new standard for M91/30 production was adopted, this regulated M91/30 production operations - "Technical conditions #1525". Mosin Nagant 91/30 Stock, w/ Metal Parts & Repair Section Cutout *Very Good* $149.95. This will be a brief overview of Mosin Nagant M91/30 disassembly. Don't round off the edges (unless they're really sharp). Military Preservation & Civilian Firearms Forums for Collectors, Post You may also be interested in my revolver polishing guide, my custom Ruger SP101 wood grip guide, rifle round reloading guide or my other pages.