Blew up the monorail and succeeded in framing a scapegoat to secure Ronald Curtis' cover (+12). Just before you enter the room with Eddie, take a hit of Turbo and try to beeline to Eddie spamming the talk button while doing that. This will knock your infamy up to a level where they won't be hostile to you yet. Working on the Chain Gang is a Powder Ganger-centric quest mod designed to begin in the early game, when the player is being introduced to the chain gang, and ends in the midgame. The faction reputation can reset at an unpredictable time. Buildings However you will be offered truce once you will enter their camp unless your reputation with them is very bad in which case they will shoot you anyway. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was not rebuilt before agreeing to stage the attack on. IMO the best good guy plan is to not finish Ghost Town Gunfight until you do I Fought the Law. The Powder Gangers are hostile toward me. Choosing to spread the new power equally across the entire Vegas grid (+12). Unlike other items in his inventory, pickpocketing the key will never fail as long as the player character is hidden. You can have minimum rep and some factions wont attack you provided you did a couple of good things for them (off the top of my head I think you can even be vilified and provided you didnt shoot anyone they'll just be really rude to you.). Just run away if you happen to get in to the fight with them. The player character may receive discounts with merchants, provoke attacks from hired thugs, or simply be treated differently. Turn in all 3 supply caches and pass the Science check for the irradiated supplies (+2). What was your reputation with them at that time? Or alienate them. They disappear completely from the storyline after the opening area. With the exception of the White Glove Society, Great Khans and Powder Gangers in Vault 19, all factions will attack the player with a negative reputation. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. However, upon equipping an NCR faction armor/clothing, there is a chance reputation will reset back to neutral again. Leaders Fallout: New Vegas. Originally, any faction member could be killed without loss of reputation, though only if the player character remained [HIDDEN] or in [CAUTION] for the kill without it progressing to [DANGER]. Also, be aware that karma is largely irrelevant in New Vegas and that it is infamy with specific factions which gets you shunned by them. NCRCF (exterior)NCRPrisonAdministrationNCRPrisonBlockANCRPrisonBlockBNCRPrisonVisitorsCenter Still, the bug you're talking about does exist. Activate the self-destruct sequence of the Hidden Valley bunker (-100). I mean disappeared too. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. When I was just shunned second time they did not turn hostile and I could talk to Eddie. By far the easiest way is to load an earlier save. Convince Heck Gunderson against cutting off the food supply to the Strip (+12). Also finish Lonesome road by nuking NCR and legion. Both types of reputation are tracked separately, the combination of which determines one's reputation with any given faction. But if you help Good Springs you get a handful of caps and well nothing else except now you have to battle your way everywhere since the Powder Gangers hate you and for what? -Find Vault 19 and complete the quest there. What is the advantage of helping Good Springs? Also, be aware that karma is largely irrelevant in New Vegas and that it is infamy with specific factions which gets you shunned by them. Unlike other mods that add in new races or genders to the Powder Gangers, this mod comes with fully voiced dialogue for these Femgangers that not only reacts to nearby events occurring, such as a named Ganger dying or Quarry Junction being cleared out or Hidden Valley blowing up, but also sound right at home with a criminal. Each action that gains Fame or Infamy is assigned a set value in the editor, which is added via script: Fame and Infamy (denoted 1 and 0 in the console) are earned by doing helpful or harmful deeds, respectively, to the faction. If one's reputation with the NCR is above neutral, he will reply that the Courier has done a great deal in a short time and advises them to ask around. You can always try to wear a PG outfit and sneak in that way to the prison and talk to the leader in the Admin building. AnotherGuy18 6 yr. ago. Great for those who prefer to sling their dynamite than getting up close and personal. Powder Gangers are not good guys, you get good karma for killing them so why if you are playing a good character are you bothered that they don't like you? Terminals Exploring the Mojave: Southern New Vegas 44 Cottonwood Cove 45 Exploring the Mojave: Western New Vegas 46 Exploring the Mojave: From Westside to Jacobstown 47 Jacobstown 48 Finishing the Outskirts and Claiming the Remnants Power Armor 49 Freeside Old Mormon Fort 50 Atomic Wrangler 51 The Kings School of Impersonation 52 The New Vegas Strip That would allow you to do the NCRCF quests more easily whichever way you want to proceed. Reputation is separated into two categories: Fame and Infamy. I killed some. gamespot.comgiantbomb.commetacritic.comfandom.comfanatical.com, Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReportAd. Yeah, but given the circumstances the NCR are serving as the marshals, troopers and governor therefore they would have the power to pardon and deputize at their own discretion. Worsen the condition of an injured Boomer at the. If you have a level of infamy, you can't ever get to be Idolized or any of the other strictly "good" ranks. NCR Correctional Facility appears only inFallout: New Vegas. No I did not know, I don't spend my time looking through ALL of the mods. A positive reputation is required to receive the. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Reply. Appearances Using their outfit with bad reputation doesn't work, the unnamed Powder Gangers leaves you alone, but the named ones (Dawes, Eddy, etc) will still turn hostile. Unless this was patched in, then no. Factions I end up shunned or hated, but I can still enter the NCRCF and do Eddie's quest. If the player character becomes Vilified with the Powder Gangers, they will not be able to enter the facility without its inhabitants turning hostile. I think you can give Boxcars a bunch of Med-X too to help ease his pain in Nipton. All rights reserved. Our Fallout New Vegas Game Guide includes a walkthrough across this. You can get infamy with the Powder Gangers, and if have a mod that fixes the bug where the Powder Gangers faction wasn't given evil karma, you can steal from them without a karma penalty. NVCE changes their appearance. You currently have javascript disabled. The NCR is an equal opportunities employer. I think that the game would have been much better suited if they had replace all the Powder Gangers with random raiders, Eliminated their two missions or at least the option to side with them, and then spent the extra time fixing glitches in the game. However, he will continue in casual dialogue as long as one has a good reputation with the gang. He sells chems and a few odds and ends. There are two things to keep track of: karma and reputation. Short of either eliminating them entirely or using console commands, probably not. The game is good the story line is good but seriouslythe bugs and there are a LOT are starting to piss me off. Not undermanned. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. I swore that this time around I wouldn't kill any of them, except in the Goodsprings thing, but I just can't help myself from killing every single one of them. But it is a difficult quest for low level characters. Unless this was patched in, then no. If you help the Powder Gangers you get an easy source of explosives and reloading powder, a safe road to Primm, several easy starting missions to get you some caps, a discount in the Good Springs store, easy access to Meyers, etc. All rights reserved. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). In cell block B just above the outside entrance, a sign reads "cell block K Z." Accessing the "Squad Readiness Reports Terminal" on the front desk in the. One of the boxes always produces a random skill magazine. Both Jacob Hoff and Bill Ronte were successfully cured of, or convinced to seek help for, their additions (+12). Upon entering the facility through the front door, one will find themself in the visitor's center, a lounge-like area with tables, a desk, a first-aid box and a counter with a broken terminal on it. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. Exterior I do like the lore of the powder gangers a lot more than goodsprings. Once a high-security prison of the Republic, the facility became a fortified stronghold of the Powder Gangers, monitored by Brotherhood and NCR scouts alike. New California Republic Correctional Facility, NCR Correctional Facility terminal entries, Warden's Terminal, Guard transfers to the east, Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide faction profiles, Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide Collector's Edition Tour of the Mojave Wasteland. Always alone? However, any faction that was hostile towards the Courier will remain so, despite the change. Are there anyways i can earn fame with the powder gangers? I can't remember if Shunned reputation is enough to actually trigger a faction hostile-on-sight, though. make sure you get the booted quest that that will change your reputation to mercifull thug (dunno if they will stop attacking you tho). How do you get the key to open a set of doors in sunset sarsaparilla headquarters? Technical In other words, while it is possible to move from 'Hated' to 'Sneering Punk', then 'Unpredictable', then 'Dark Hero' by doing more and more good deeds while avoiding bad ones, there is no permanent way to move from 'Hated' back to 'Neutral' or from 'Hated' to 'Idolized.' Cell name New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Unlike factions, they cannot alter a town's reputation with faction armor. A locked cell contains his "stash," consisting of bottle caps in an ammo container. Killing members of any faction from a [HIDDEN] state will not cause one to gain Infamy as long as the weapon is considered silent and the target dies with one attack, or if one uses Mister Sandman. I need to stop beng vilified with the powder gangers so I can retake the prision. Even if they are hostile to you. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. and our Saying Nipton "got what was coming to them" when first accepting the aforementioned quest from Vulpes (+1). Eddie can still see through your disguise, but there's a delay between the time where he first spots you and when he aggros. This quest is pretty bad designed, I mean if you want to clean out the facility you have to play nice with the gangers first? They pray on caravans and travellers, including you. Local map If one has gained a reputation with them (whether good or bad) it will not reset to neutral if the player character equips a faction armor. Mister Holdout will sell weapons to the player character at a discount price. Inhabitants Some think that the reset of reputation is caused by committing an infamous act towards a faction while wearing that faction's clothing. That said, the mod can still be started and finished if installed on an ongoing playthrough, with a minor hiccup if the player has already wiped out NCRCF. They can kill him without incurring the wrath of the other gang members and enter the facility. The Powder Gangers is a dead end. During the same scenario as above, it is confirmed that he will propose a truce, in which the player character stays away from the gang outposts and the gang leaves them alone. Reputation is separated into two categories: Fame and Infamy. Powder gangers attack me even though idolized at base. Powder Ganger Rusher: An outfit fit for a psycho. How do I get to the Boomers without being blown up? I wouldn't bother. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! The first task is to "take care" of a Powder Ganger named Chavez, who Eddie believes is setting up his own crew without permission. Eddie, the leader of the remaining Powder Gangers, has set up his headquarters in the administration building. 1. He helped the gangers take the town and "received rep with the gangers" which promptly disappeared. At the beginning of the game, i sided with the Town Of Goodsprings against the powder gangers and everytime i try to go to the NCRCF i get shot at and i cant ally with them. By far the easiest way is to load an earlier save. The Brotherhood of Steel will give the player character a key to the, They will replenish an ammunition crate next to, Lucius will teach the player character the special, The Legion will also provide various items within boxes outside of, Allows the player character to convince the mercenaries in, Allows the player character to convince each camp in, Required along with a Speech of 50 to trade with. Several functions may not work. If loading a save is not an option, there are only 3 quests which let you gain Novac fame in order to get back to . First time through if you shot at me you died so obviously I wasnt friendly with the gangers. Down the line I guess he'll probably give you a job or something but I don't imagine it'd pay much more than Powder gangin', the advantage is that you dont destroy EZ Pete's current mortal shell, Easy Pete can suck my 5.3 inch , I gotta a new Dynamite Daddy. I never saw much reforming around here, myself. Press J to jump to the feed. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, communism is a preferable alternative to communism. I think with the NCR what people are saying is right: Shunned isn't enough for them to shoot on sight. Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Boone to be recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. [3] This led to deathclaws settling into the quarry and plaguing the northern reaches of Long 15, shutting down caravan traffic to New Vegas. Think of it as wanting to get an inside "recon" of the NCRCF before joining the NCR on an assault of the prison. I tend to have the same problem with the Legion as well. (Many cops in real life are facing the same judgement too.) If one follows the I Fought the Law questline, they are given the chance to storm the base with the NCR or help the Powder Gangers defend it against the NCR. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. 000E19D6 (exterior)0008D516 (admin)0008D0FA (cell block A)0008D48E (cell block B)0008D0D5 (visitors center) Fallout: New Vegas The NCR, Mr. House, and Caesar's Legion are battling it out for control of New Vegas. Mayor is the only one who don't want to take part in any crime because he himself was a crime fighter, get put to the jail because he's too hardcore. The jail was understaffed. Eddie dies under any circumstance, which will happen as part of the, The only exception to this is if Eddie dies during the NCR attack on the, Turning in Vault suits as part of the quest, The skill check required to do this can be bypassed by never mentioning that the White Glove Society was behind, Complete Beyond The Beef by either failing to convince, or encouraging, Heck Gunderson's proposed embargo of his meat products for the Strip after he learns that the White Glove Society was behind his. It may take a couple of times but I always do it if I start on the side of Goodsprings. If you help the Powder Gangers you get an easy source of explosives and reloading powder, a safe road to Primm, several easy starting missions to get you some caps, a discount in the Good Springs store, easy access to Meyers, etc. This was changed in the December 14, 2010 update. Seems like it would make more sense if it could have been negotiated with NCR to let Meyers be the sheriff then Meyers could deputize the other Neutral Powder gangers as his police force. [Non-game 1] The prisoner population dispersed, with some following Cooke into Vault 19, and others staying with Eddie as Powder Gangers, and established camps around the correction facility. Wiping out every Powder Ganger in the facility may cause a prospector to appear here and remain indefinitely. Scrambler, Hannigan, and four unnamed Powder Gangers can be found in this building as well. Its a bit more nuanced than that but basically if you shot them you're done, if you didn't you can bring it back. [1][2] The Powder Gangers became a scourge on the inhabitants of the region, attacking caravans along Interstate 15 and stealing supplies from settlers and workers. Best. This may only happen when wiping out the location without help from the NCR. I don't think that "Shunned" is enough for them to attack on sight. You have Chet and Trudy as vendors for that part of the map. -spoilers-. Try it, its a broken quest btw even if you complete it and kill eddie at the last quest thingy "i fought the law" the quest will stay unresolved.. meyers will bug out and the radio message will say you failed :\. Fallout Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. I like to do the Goodsprings side personally because Doc Mitchell is the main doctor I buy meds from. He can either be convinced to "move on" with 30 Speech skill or killed. The powder gangers residing at the prison just want freedom and to be left alone while the NCR want control. He will aggro as you leave but you can just repeat until you can side with the NCR. Broken, bitten, maimed and cut. MetalGearGekko 11 years ago #1. This mod only alters a single entry, the Goodsprings Powder Ganger faction, and it only alters one setting of the entry. Powder Gangers love to hold grudges. Weird. If you do it fast enough, normal dialogue will ensue and you can start I Fought The Law. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Can anyone help with Powder Gangers and NCR early on?". Cell block A contains two Powder Gangers and a few locked containers of explosives and uniforms. Ever wanted to live the life of a raider. Since there really isn't anything left to do there after the battle, it couldn't hurt. [Non-game 1] Some embarked further south to cause mayhem along the Interstate 15. Equip the armor of the faction the player character is trying to work with to reset reputation to neutral. Several Powder Gangers mill about the yard, and several are posted at the tops of the towers. Here's the thing about stealing: Don't get caught. If you talk to the guy at the door he should let you in for a hundred caps or something with a disquise. Lie to Heck Gunderson about who took Ted Gunderson when taking him back to Heck (+12). The dialogue option to report dropping the radioactive waste will override the first and Astor will act as if the radioactive waste was dropped while the Legion was still present.). As part of the first quest mentioned above, an NCR hit squad will approach and warn to improve reputation with the NCR within three days. If any neutral (black in table above), but at least one instance of positive reputation had been gained, or better, Additionally, one can be granted access to the. However, Carter and the Powder Ganger bodyguards in the warden's office will still be hostile. I say steal the key from the door guard, run in wearing the disguise, and then try to talk to Eddie about doing the quest. Is Fallout new Vegas The Best in the series? To exit the facility one must jump over the fence again using the guard tower stairs, use fast travel, or pickpocket the key from Dawes through the fence. Snipers form an effective perimeter around the facility. Factions provide the following benefits/consequences with adequate reputation: In addition, one's reputation with the major factions affects the kind of Courier duster that is received at the end of Lonesome Road. Wear the Powder Ganger armor. Negative reputation yields the following: The nomadic army from the East is notoriously hard to impress, but incredibly easy to offend. The community on the outskirts of the Strip has its own code, accepting to those that help, and shunning to those that do not. There is also a fridge, a Sunset Sarsaparilla vending machine, and a Nuka-Cola vending machine. The leader Pearl predicted that one day an outsider would get past the defenses of Nellis and help connect the Boomers with the rest of the world, even if "only a little." On the road northwest of the facility are six signs that read "NOTICE: Hitch hikers may be escaped prisoners" with the, The NCR Correctional Facility is based on the real life location of, Each of the Powder Ganger snipers have an entry for. [Non-game 1][7], Under the lead of Samuel Cooke, a small group of inmates gathered weapons and explosives before rebelling against the NCR staffing the facility. Scout Primm and learn of the NCR's plans (+1). 102. (Really early spoilers, I guess? My current playthrough has that bug with the Legion. Donate doses of either Med-X, Fixer, RadAway (+1 per dose, up to +3 at a time if the maximum amount of multiple doses are given at once). Mercy killing the NCR trooper hostages (+2). #2 Silverio Dec 29, 2014 @ 5:10am Thanks for the quick response. There seems to be a lot of Powder Ganger questions today. Five of the six towers have Powder Gangers posted at the top, and each contains minor stealable loot, consisting of mostly ammunition and healing items. A positive reputation may yield positive dialogue, discounts from vendors, and even free gifts from wandering citizens. There will be a man sitting at one of the tables named Meyers, who can play a part in the My Kind of Town questline. NCR Correctional Facility I think that may be by design. I didn't realize that was necessarily a bug. The gangers weren't even on my rep list despite being hated with goodsprings..not neutral not hated not likednothing. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Shunned from Mojave Outpost and Vicki and Vance Casino in Primm". Chet can actually store some good crafting parts, some rarer mods, and for some reason I often see him keeping around a bunch of Caravan cards. If they are wearing Powder Ganger clothing, Dawes will still talk to them and accept a bribe, but he will turn hostile as the player character gets closer. Link: https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/I_Fought_the_LawFallout New Vegas I Fought the Law (Powder Ganger) Quest Walkthrough Basically the same problem I had. So I am now more or less around Novac, the NCR has been put to the task of keeping Primm in check and I have unfortunately missed out on going to the NCRCF before handling the Powder Gangers at Goodsprings. You can actually do all of Eddie's requests without killing anyone, so no karma issues. Even if the player character's reputation is neutral, if they have sided with the. Hostile is different. What's the point of being fanatical about something that's overall trivial if the attitude is going to be "Y'know, you should be as obsessive as I am as well as know and remember everything I do." Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and comment negatively on each of them (-1). I did the mission in the first town where you kill all the powder gangers, not realizing that it would have repercussions, and now I'm vilified by the gang. [Non-game 1][6] The inmates were tasked with maintaining a railroad alongside the Long 15 under military supervision, keeping the vital link between the Boneyard and New Vegas alive. Speaking to him will initiate the I Fought the Law quest. It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. Doing Cooke's quests also nets fame, but no rank up. Fallout: New Vegas side quest Ghost Town Gunfight Powder Gangers attacking Goodsprings Location Goodsprings Given by Trudy Ringo Rewards 250 caps (100 at Goodsprings, 150 at the Crimson Caravan Company) 150 XP Goodsprings fame +12 Powder Gangers infamy +12 Factions Goodsprings Powder Gangers Related quests Run Goodsprings Run Technical Editor ID You could try wearing a Powder Ganger outfit, sneaking into the building Eddie is in and using a Stealth Boy (the bodyguards and Eddie see through the disguise). Towns will never be permanently hostile to the player character; leaving the town for three days and returning should remove any hostility. Negative reputation can be earned by things such as killing members of a group, being caught stealing, lying, being rude or treating people poorly, or completing quests for the opposite side. Im not very far into the game but restarting would reset lots of progress. One such gap in the fence is situated between the lookout tower and the visitors center and the other is located almost directly opposite it, along the eastern fence. I recently started a new play through of Fallout New Vegas, and i wanted to do some of the powder gangers quests because i had never done them before. Tai Scott. I am Villified, but no matter how many of them I kill they only stay hostile so long as I'm in combat with them. 1K. Even if you earn rep they'll permanently hate you and shoot you on sight. I don't think they attack you until you've been villified. The only way to save Goodsprings and still be able to walk into the NCRCF is to never take part in the fight, let the townsfolk kill all gang members. Specific consequences of reputation within towns include: Scripted instances of town Infamy include: Impressing the reclusive gun-toting tribe is an art. It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. Similar to this, one can "sit" in one of the outhouses in the southwest corner from outside the fence, effectively teleporting them inside the facility. Khans value strength, determination, and resilience. I recently started playing new vegas(my first fallout game) and I had no idea that karma gets you shunned so I just stole most things. When I want to play with the Powder Gangers, I just skip the Good springs confrontation altogether. The minimum reputation required for each range are: There is no way to remove reputation points from either scale, except for the NCR, Legion, and Freeside: Beyond that, any positive or negative reputation with a given faction cannot be removed, only offset by a larger Fame or Infamy value. Fixed: Release in which this issue/RFE has been fixed.The release containing this fix may be available for download as an Early Access Release or a General Availability Release. Positive reputation yields the following: The military order is quite a bit demanding when it comes to establishing one's reputation with them. Negative reputation for all towns and factions, For an overview of the game mechanic across titles, see. You get a lot more caps if doing the Goodsprings side, 100 caps initially, 150 when you meet Ringo at Crimson Caravan. [Non-game 1] Blasting their way out of the cellblock, they quickly overwhelmed what little NCR personnel was present at the site, killed the warden, and established their own rule. Why did the NCR think it was a good idea to give convicts dynamite and to send a felon from their jail in California that is known for using explosives to commit crimes to the Mojave jail that was undermanned?